Powering up the Speaker of the House
Former MPs, law clerk have a plan to bring decorum to Parliament
By Leslie MacKinnon CBC News Posted: Dec 28, 2012 6:34 AM ET
Two former Liberal MPs and a former law clerk of the House of Commons, weary of what they see as a dysfunctional House of Commons, are working on a proposal to give more power to the Speaker.Former MPs Paul Szabo and Derek Lee, along with Rob Walsh, the recently retired law clerk, have been brainstorming about how to fix Parliament, and are quietly lobbying for change.
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Walsh suggests changing the rules to give the Speaker more power."Put something in the Standing Orders (written rules of the House of Commons) that recognizes the well-established traditions of parliamentary practices and call upon the Speaker to see that those practices are respected and not in some manner abused."As examples of abuse, Walsh cited omnibus bills that amend dozens of acts, or the constant moving of committee business behind closed doors."We're talking about obstruction by majorities, using the majority position to suppress the opposition."
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Canadians who despair of the cacophony in question period might be heartened by what goes on in the British House of Commons, where the Speaker has the power to evict members, cut off speeches and adjourn the legislature if things get too rowdy.
In a video on the website of the British newspaper the Telegraph, Speaker John Bercow is shown yelling full bore at MPs, ordering them to sit down and be quiet or risk being kicked out. He admonishes one MP for a "bogus point of order" and tells another "to act like an adult."
Bercow has even publicly blasted his own party leader, Prime Minister David Cameron, for refusing to answer questions about the phone-hacking scandal.
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Exasperated question period junkies in Canada might look to the Australian House of Commons [should be "House of Representatives" - DC], where there is a penalty box, or "sin bin," that the Speaker can employ for an hour to hold errant MPs.
"I was in Australia with [former Speaker] Peter Milliken," said Szabo, "and we went to QP, and there were actually two or three people put in the penalty box while we were there, for good reason."
RON MACLEAN
Welcome to a very delayed
House of Commons Night in Canada, the first for the 2012-2013 season.
I'm Ron MacLean here with Don Cherry.
Grapes, we've neglected the House of Commons what with the NHL lockout
keeping us spinning our wheels, so let's catch up.
DON CHERRY
Yeah, well I think the most
important thing in the new season is intercourse in the House...
RON MACLEAN
I think you mean
"discourse"...
DON CHERRY
No, "dyscourse"
is what we've got now - everybody talking and nobody listening. Question Period is totally psycho - the
Opposition asks a question and somebody from the Government side gives an
answer that is from outer space and the exact same as all of the the other
government answers on the same day that are all useless.
RON MACLEAN
So from your point of view,
what would be ideal intercourse in the House of Commons?
DON CHERRY
Well as the Australians
say, now you're asking me a question. In
my opinion - and this is only my opinion...
RON MACLEAN
Yeah sure, your opinion's
like a Papal Bull...
DON CHERRY
Why are you bringing Belleville into this?
RON MACLEAN
They have an Olympic size
rink.
DON CHERRY
You've managed to confuse
me.
RON MACLEAN
Just ignore me.
DON CHERRY
What should happen is if you're asked a straight question you give a straight answer. Everybody can agree to disagree afterwards but at least the whole thing gets aired in public, which I thought was the whole idea. Anyway, the good news is
that Rob Walsh is on the case...you remember Walsh?
RON MACLEAN
Of course, from the Battle of the Robs. Former Clerk of the House of Commons - their lawyer.
DON CHERRY
Go to the head of the
class.
RON MACLEAN
I'm more a back of the bus
person...
DON CHERRY
I'm going to have a heart
attack from not surprise. Anyway, Rob
and Peter Milliken - the last Speaker of the House, a guy I've got a lot of
time for...
RON MACLEAN
Of course there's a lot of
time on our hands during the lockout...
DON CHERRY
I'm starting to think
you're a part of the problem, not the solution.
Anyway, Rob and Peter and some other guys who care about Parliamentary
Democracy are about to campaign for more power and independence for the
Speaker...
RON MACLEAN
I thought you're idea of refereeing was to just let 'em play...
DON CHERRY
You haven't been paying
attention. The idea of refereeing is not to
get in the way of the game, but making sure that cheap shots, diving, and all the other dishonourable crap get penalized. There's always The Code, but you need somebody to call the rest or it would be anarchy out there. And you can't have everybody discussing every off-side.
RON MACLEAN
So what does that look
like?
DON CHERRY
Well, you'll find a good
summary on the CBC, even though the CBC is mostly latte drinking Volvo drivers.
RON MACLEAN
I think those people have moved on to Chai tea and the Prius.
DON CHERRY
What's a Prius?
RON MACLEAN
A hybrid.
DON CHERRY
Is it a car?
RON MACLEAN
Sure.
DON CHERRY
Anyway, these guys in the Speaker lobby have looked at other methods of making Question Period work. In Britain, the current Speaker is John Bercow...
RON MACLEAN
...who we featured a year ago..
DON CHERRY
... and I've got a lot of
time for this guy,too. He tells people to
shut up and sit down, and throws people out if they don't answer questions or show proper respect for the game.
RON MACLEAN
And they also looked at the
Australian system, where the Speaker has an actual penalty box. The analogies
with hockey get more similar, what with bench clearing brawls in Westminster...
DON CHERRY
Exactly.
You know, the beauty of parliamentary democracy is that it evolves.
.RON MACLEAN
..like eliminating the red line?
DON CHERRY
Sure, but I think Winston Churchill said it best as usual:
.RON MACLEAN
..like eliminating the red line?
DON CHERRY
Sure, but I think Winston Churchill said it best as usual:
"Thus we arrive, by our ancient constitutional methods at practical working arrangements which show that Parliamentary democracy can adapt itself to all situations and can go out in all weathers."RON MACLEAN
You never cease to surprise me. Well, we've got a lot to
look forward to in the coming season, even if for now Question Period is an Orwellian
grope* through the government's propaganda.
DON CHERRY
Sometimes you surprise me.
RON MACLEAN
I got that line from a book. Anyway, I've evolved along with
your suits.
DON CHERRY
Clothes make the man.
RON MACLEAN
Have you considered running
for Parliament?
DON CHERRY
Come on! I barely got used to Twitter.
RON MACLEAN
Pat Martin never got used to Twitter.
DON CHERRY
He didn't have the right
clothes.
RON MACLEAN
Until 2013, that's it for
House of Commons Night in Canada.
DON CHERRY
I'd like to see what happens
if van Loan gets in a brawl with Trudeau...